Autor Thema: Phylloneta male, the Netherlands, + palp pics => Phylloneta impressa  (Gelesen 129 mal)

Frank van de Putte

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Hello, today I found this male Phylloneta (~3.5mm) in the south-west of the Netherlands.

I have almost no experience with Theridiidae genitalia, and I find it hard to see the differences between P.sisyphia and P.impressa...

best wishes, Frank
« Letzte Änderung: 2018-06-12 22:55:03 von Katja Duske »
I'm from the Netherlands, but I can read some German :-)

Simeon Indzhov

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Re: Phylloneta male, the Netherlands, + palp pics
« Antwort #1 am: 2018-06-12 21:35:45 »
Impressa (long bulb&conductor)
Simeon

Ulrich Kursawe

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Re: Phylloneta male, the Netherlands, + palp pics
« Antwort #2 am: 2018-06-12 21:45:46 »
Hi Frank,

just to support Simeon, since I have already modified your last image for better comparison:

Phyllo4_modified.jpg
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Compare to:
https://forum.arages.de/index.php?topic=22167.0
and
https://arachno.piwigo.com/picture?/16640/category/381-phylloneta_impressa

Greetings, Uli

Simeon Indzhov

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Re: Phylloneta male, the Netherlands, + palp pics
« Antwort #3 am: 2018-06-12 21:51:28 »
And sisyphia for comparison (knowing what it isn' t and why is also important ;) )

Frank van de Putte

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Re: Phylloneta male, the Netherlands, + palp pics
« Antwort #4 am: 2018-06-12 22:29:11 »
Hello, thanks to the both of you, and for the explanation! Indeed, the impressa bulbus is longer than that of sisyphia.


P.impressa is the rarer species of these 2, in the Netherlands, so it's a nice find!


thanks again, Frank

I'm from the Netherlands, but I can read some German :-)