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Klaus Fritz

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Clubiona => Clubiona sp.
« am: 2019-03-10 16:46:13 »
Hallo Team,
könnte es sich hier um Clubiona phragmitis handeln?
Fundort: 22880 Wedel,eigener Garten mit kleinem Teich,im Feuerholz am 25.01.2019,Kl.: 12 mm

Viele Grüße,
            Klaus
« Letzte Änderung: 2019-03-31 00:14:58 von Katja Duske »

Klaus Fritz

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Re: Clubiona
« Antwort #1 am: 2019-03-25 20:51:05 »
Moin Team,
ich habe meinen Thread noch einmal angehoben in der Hoffnung, das eventuell die Gattung bestimmbar ist.
Im voraus vielen Dank.

Viele Grüße,
          Klaus

Frank van de Putte

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Re: Clubiona
« Antwort #2 am: 2019-03-30 19:39:18 »
This is a Clubiona, but not C.phragmitis, IMO. And what did you mean with "KL:12mm"

The "Körperlänge" (body-length) looks more like 6mm, legs are not included :)
I'm from the Netherlands, but I can read some German :-)

Simeon Indzhov

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Re: Clubiona
« Antwort #3 am: 2019-03-30 20:08:02 »
Why not C.phragmitis? This species has similar robust, dark and forwards-directed chelicerae so one cannot exclude it at least. The "Teich" (small lake) makes its occurrence at least possible in Klaus' garden.
Simeon

Frank van de Putte

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Re: Clubiona
« Antwort #4 am: 2019-03-30 22:35:34 »
Do you think this is an adult spider, Simeon?
I'm from the Netherlands, but I can read some German :-)

Simeon Indzhov

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Re: Clubiona
« Antwort #5 am: 2019-03-30 22:39:43 »
No. He is a sub-subadult male, judging by the palpal tarsi. And at this time of year, I barely expect adult Clubiona

Frank van de Putte

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Re: Clubiona
« Antwort #6 am: 2019-03-30 23:08:29 »
And therefore it's better to call this one as "Clubiona spec"; juvenile Clubiona's are almost impossible to determine from photo..
Adult Clubiona can be found in the winter, I found an adult male Clubiona terrestris, early january, this year.
I'm from the Netherlands, but I can read some German :-)

Simeon Indzhov

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Re: Clubiona
« Antwort #7 am: 2019-03-30 23:24:49 »
Yes, of course. I only said it could be the species You excluded. And yes, thanks, I correct myself - while I mostly observe subadult Clubiona in winter (pallidula, brevipes, occasional comta), I indeed also remember terrestris being posted, for example in Britain-based spider idenification group at Facebook,

Klaus Fritz

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Re: Clubiona => Clubiona sp.
« Antwort #8 am: 2019-03-31 21:48:52 »
Hello Frank and Simeon,
First of all, thank you for your discussion.
My 1st mistake: the body length is without chelicerae
6 mm.
My second mistake: I did not realize that it is a young animal.
Clubiona sp. is a result

Many Greetings,
                 Klaus