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Raffaele Falato

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Salticidae in the stadium => Philaeus chrysops
« am: 2020-01-29 23:52:38 »
Gorgoglione, Province of Matera, Basilicata, southern Italy.

Discovery date: December 27, 12:40.
Habitat: 1000 m - under a hollow stone brick.
Dimensions: 5 mm or slightly more.

Hello everybody.
I found this spider under a stone brick on top of a pile of other bricks, at the entrance to an abandoned soccer field in the countryside.
It should be a female specimen, but which genus and species? I am reminded of Philaeus, Euophrys, Pseudeuophrys ... and others.
A greeting.
Raf

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Michael Schäfer

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Re: Salticidae in the stadium
« Antwort #1 am: 2020-01-30 14:04:46 »
Philaeus crysops

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Re: Salticidae in the stadium
« Antwort #2 am: 2020-01-30 15:18:22 »
Thanks Michael.
It was on top of my thoughts; moreover, the territory of my research is full of it.
Given the size, it's a young female, isn't it?
Raf

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Re: Salticidae in the stadium => Philaeus chrysops
« Antwort #3 am: 2020-01-30 15:47:30 »
On the last photo it looks as if there are beginnings of thickened palps. Then it would be a juvenile or subadult male. Maybe you can show us the relevant image section in original resolution.

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Re: Salticidae in the stadium => Philaeus chrysops
« Antwort #4 am: 2020-01-30 16:07:38 »
In fact, my spider looks a lot like the subadult male on the Wiki.
Which photo are you referring to, Micha? the one with the spider upside down or the one with the front view?
According to the translator, I have to enlarge and post the photo section showing the palps, right? Be patient, Michael, I don't speak or understand the German language and I have to rely on this hellish tool called Google translator, which is more often than not less reliable than a Trabant.   >:( ;D
Raf

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Re: Salticidae in the stadium => Philaeus chrysops
« Antwort #5 am: 2020-01-30 16:13:28 »
Hi Raf,

this is Off Topic, but as a hint - try deepl.com - it is much better than google translator even though it still has its difficulties especially with ambiguities!

Grüße Viktoria

Du kriegst das Mädchen aus dem Wald aber den Wald nicht aus dem Mädchen.

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Re: Salticidae in the stadium => Philaeus chrysops
« Antwort #6 am: 2020-01-30 16:37:13 »
What is there not to understand about "On the last photo"? The last photo is simply the last photo. Foto numero quattro ;-)

Michael

PS: By the way, I exclusively use DeepL ;-)
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Re: Salticidae in the stadium => Philaeus chrysops
« Antwort #7 am: 2020-01-30 16:52:05 »
Hi Viki, thanks for the tip.  ;)
Now I have the documents of a court case to study, but I'll try the site tonight.
Hey Michael, don't get mad or I'll take you to court.  ;D
Tonight I will enlarge the section of the fourth photo, as you requested, and then I will post it.
A salutone from Italy.
Raf

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Re: Salticidae in the stadium => Philaeus chrysops
« Antwort #8 am: 2020-01-30 22:29:15 »
Good evening.
I hope this is the portion of the photo requested by Michael, otherwise I haven't understood anything yet.
Raf

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Re: Salticidae in the stadium => Philaeus chrysops
« Antwort #9 am: 2020-01-30 22:59:26 »
Below, the photos of the little brother (or little sister) of 3-4 mm, whose sericeous shelter was under the same brick, a few centimeters away from the shelter of the "original" spider.
So, two Philaeus chrysops wintering under the same brick. Nice shot, right?

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Re: Salticidae in the stadium => Philaeus chrysops
« Antwort #10 am: 2020-01-31 07:30:03 »
You have already understood everything correctly, but unfortunately there are no new insights for me. The resolution of the photo is simply too low to see more.

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Re: Salticidae in the stadium => Philaeus chrysops
« Antwort #11 am: 2020-01-31 12:49:55 »
Thanks anyway, Michael.
I classify the spider (and little brother / little sister) as young Philaeus chrysops, without indicating the sex.
As for the resolution of my photos, sometimes my Nikon Coolpix P610 improved with the Rainox macro lens takes wonderful photos and other times photos like those of the thread. It depends on many factors, including my still poor experience with macro.
I apologize.
A greeting.
Raf