Autor Thema: Brown little spiders => Titanoeca sp.  (Gelesen 115 mal)

Raffaele Falato

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Brown little spiders => Titanoeca sp.
« am: 2020-11-11 18:08:48 »
Gorgoglione, Province of Matera, Basilicata, Southern Italy.

Date of discovery: November 7, morning.
Habitat: 800 m - in the countryside, under a stone in a meadow with low vegetation and shrubs, nearby there is an oak forest.
Dimensions: the largest 3-4 mm.

Ciao,
I found these two spiders in their shelter (I have the photo, if needed) under a large isolated stone in a small meadow.
I have no idea, I can only imagine that the largest spider is a male and the other a female / young.
Raf

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Simeon Indzhov

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Re: Brown little spiders
« Antwort #1 am: 2020-11-11 18:16:52 »
Titanoeca juveniles
Simeon

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Re: Brown little spiders
« Antwort #2 am: 2020-11-11 18:57:00 »
Thanks Simeon, I had never met these spiders.
Can you tell me when I can find adult specimens?
Thanks again.
Raf

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Re: Brown little spiders
« Antwort #3 am: 2020-11-11 19:01:13 »
Uh, maybe in spring? Around May? My experience with Titanoeca is only sporadic.

Raffaele Falato

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Re: Brown little spiders
« Antwort #4 am: 2020-11-11 19:23:09 »
Rearranging the photos, I found this one that appears to show an apophysis or something similar on the left palp.
Is it therefore also present on juveniles (the photo concerns the largest spider)?

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Re: Brown little spiders
« Antwort #5 am: 2020-11-11 19:48:57 »
No, this is not an apophysis but a white object on the palpal tibia creating the illusion of an incision. The spider is a sub-subadult male by the way. This said, in Cybaeus for example, the patellar apophysis starts developing as a small pointed protrusion even in subadults.

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Re: Brown little spiders
« Antwort #6 am: 2020-11-11 20:01:28 »
Thank you very much, Simeon.

Greetings.
Raf

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Re: Brown little spiders => Titanoeca sp.
« Antwort #7 am: 2020-11-11 20:31:14 »
Mai/June is good for almost all subadult spiders in autumn/winter. In Italy probably even already in April.

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Re: Brown little spiders => Titanoeca sp.
« Antwort #8 am: 2020-11-11 20:51:07 »
Thanks Jonathan.

Greetings.
Raf