Autor Thema: Spider with long legs => cf. Nesticus cellulanus  (Gelesen 258 mal)

Raffaele Falato

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Spider with long legs => cf. Nesticus cellulanus
« am: 2021-01-06 12:24:06 »
Gorgoglione, Province of Matera, Basilicata, Southern Italy.

Date of discovery: December 19, morning.
Habitat: 800 m - about 1 km from the town, on an iron barrier on the side of the road; on the other side of the barrier there is a ravine with young oaks, some vegetable garden and vegetation.
Size: about 3-4mm.

Good morning.

This spider I cannot identify, yet its appearance is not new to me, I have doubts even about the family.
The design on the prosoma should be distinctive but I haven't found anything like it on the web. It could look like a very young Metellina merianae, but I'm not too convinced, or it could be a Linyphiidae (?phantes) or, ultimately, a Theridiidae that I don't know.
Can you help me?
Thanks.
Raf

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Simeon Indzhov

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Re: Spider with long legs
« Antwort #1 am: 2021-01-06 12:36:41 »
A Nesticus of sorts?
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Tobias Bauer

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Re: Spider with long legs
« Antwort #2 am: 2021-01-06 12:58:36 »
Yes, Nesticidae for sure.

Tobias

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Re: Spider with long legs
« Antwort #3 am: 2021-01-06 13:29:37 »
Nesticidae, how did I not think about it. And now I also remember where I saw this spider, in an old thread on this forum (ID by O. Machac).
Young Nesticus cellulanus, a specimen coming from the external environment and not from caves apparently. The other genera in the family don't look anything like my spider.

Thanks Simeon & Tobias.  :D

Greetings.
Raf

Raffaele Falato

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Re: Spider with long legs
« Antwort #4 am: 2021-01-06 14:14:40 »
Once you know the name, everything gets easier.

From arachnology.cz

https://www.arachnology.cz/pic/20151204/1449261081-obr-c10-nesticus-cellulanus-51110.jpg

The pattern on the opisthosome is surprisingly the same.
Is it a young female, given the size? Thanks.
Raf

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Re: Spider with long legs => cf. Nesticus cellulanus
« Antwort #5 am: 2021-01-11 00:07:20 »
I had a similar case where i found it far away froma cave:
https://forum.arages.de/index.php?topic=15985

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Re: Spider with long legs => cf. Nesticus cellulanus
« Antwort #6 am: 2021-01-12 15:31:03 »
Ciao Jon,
yes, we came across 2 N. c. with outdoor habitat.
For this reason our spiders are colorful and have a clearly distinguishable pattern, as I also read on the wiki.
Raf