Autor Thema: Pardosa on dead leaves => Pardosa cf. hortensis  (Gelesen 150 mal)

Raffaele Falato

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Pardosa on dead leaves => Pardosa cf. hortensis
« am: 2021-03-04 20:02:20 »
Gorgoglione, Province of Matera, Basilicata, Southern Italy.

Discovery date: March 4, 11:30 am, sunny.
Habitat: 800 m - in the countryside, in low vegetation and among the litter of dead leaves at the edge of a path. Presence of oaks, bushes and shrubs.
Dimensions: about 5mm or a little more.

Greetings to the forum.
Can this female Pardosa be identified better?
I would aim for hortensis, considering that the habitat was quite dry (for this time of year).
There were many similar specimens, of various sizes (the spider in the photo was the largest among the ones I have seen).
In any case, is it an adult spider or not?
Because, in the first case, I could collect some specimens (Tobias  ;))
Thank you.
Raf

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Simeon Indzhov

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Re: Pardosa on dead leaves
« Antwort #1 am: 2021-03-04 22:51:13 »
Pardosa hortensis is likely. I don't think these are amentata, in latter species the carapace band dilates anteriorly and there is a silverish hue to the dorsum of the abdomen.
Simeon

Tobias Bauer

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Re: Pardosa on dead leaves
« Antwort #2 am: 2021-03-05 09:49:38 »
seems adult and probably hortensis. But collecting it is not wrong.

Raffaele Falato

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Re: Pardosa on dead leaves
« Antwort #3 am: 2021-03-05 10:13:24 »
Thank you guys.  :D
This determination is very important because it allows me to determine which particular area of ​​my wife's property is populated by (cf.) hortensis; so now I know where to look for the species for an upcoming expedition to Germany.  ;)
Now I'm back in situ in search of more Pardosa, the 2021 hunting season has just begun.
Greetings from Southern Italy.
Raf

Jonathan Neumann

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Re: Pardosa on dead leaves
« Antwort #4 am: 2021-03-05 10:25:22 »
when you plan to visit germany please let us know!
Maybe we can do a forums exkursion together as soon Corona allows us that!

LG,
Jonathan
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Raffaele Falato

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Re: Pardosa on dead leaves
« Antwort #5 am: 2021-03-05 15:55:27 »
Well, apparently my wife's entire country estate is currently populated by the species (cf.) hortensis, this morning I also photographed some males.
These spiders are present in good numbers wherever there is litter of dead leaves and / or low vegetation with exposure to sunlight.
And I haven't seen any other Pardosa species.

@Jonathan
I am flattered by your invitation! And if there is the possibility, I will be very happy to meet all of you (or some of you) and to take part in some excursions.  :D

My first time in Germany will be however at the Munich Oktoberfest. Two or three days of beer a go go and then, if I come out unscathed, ...

Obviously, all of you are invited here by me in Basilicata, when you have the desire and the possibility, for a magnificent spidersafari; after all, you (at plural) have been repeating me like a mantra for more than a year: southern Italy is full of spiders yet to be determined.
And here there are no logistical problems, the village is full of uninhabited houses and in our garage there are 4 cars ready for use.  8)

Greetings from southern Italy.
Raf

Ulrich Kursawe

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Re: Pardosa on dead leaves => Pardosa cf. hortensis
« Antwort #6 am: 2021-03-05 17:36:25 »
Hi Raf,

if you visit the Oktoberfest on the second (= the middle) weekend you will feel right at home. This is already labelled as the "Italian Weekend" here in Munich, because at least 50% of the visitors on that weekend come from Italy  ;D.

Greetings, Uli

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Re: Pardosa on dead leaves => Pardosa cf. hortensis
« Antwort #7 am: 2021-03-05 17:43:59 »
Oh, thanks for the information, Uli.  ;)

I will make sure NOT to be there that weekend.

Raf